California Penal Code 25850 makes it a crime to carry a loaded firearm on your person or in a vehicle while in a public place.
Although this offense is usually charged as a misdemeanor, it can be filed as a felony under certain aggravating circumstances.
A conviction for carrying a loaded firearm can result in jail time, fines, probation, and long-term firearm restrictions. In some cases, immigration consequences may also apply.
If you are under investigation or have been arrested for violating Penal Code 25850 in Los Angeles County, understanding the law and your defenses is critical.
Your best hope for a favorable outcome is with an experienced criminal defense attorney at Eisner Gorin LLP.
To schedule a consultation, call (818) 781-1570 or contact us here.
What Does Penal Code 25850 Prohibit?
Under Penal Code 25850(a), a person is guilty of carrying a loaded firearm when they:
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Carry a loaded firearm on their person, or
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Carry a loaded firearm in a vehicle,
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While in a public place or on a public street in an incorporated city, or
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In a prohibited area of an unincorporated territory
This statute is separate from Penal Code 25400, which addresses carrying a concealed firearm. A person can potentially be charged with both offenses depending on the facts.
What Is Considered a “Loaded” Firearm?
A firearm is considered loaded if:
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There is an unexpended cartridge in the chamber, or
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A loaded magazine or clip is attached to the firearm
The prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you knew the firearm was loaded.
It does not matter whether the firearm was operable at the time of arrest. However, BB guns and pellet guns are not considered firearms under Penal Code 25850.
What Is a Public Place?
A public place generally includes any location open and accessible to the general public, such as:
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Public streets
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Sidewalks
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Parks
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Parking lots
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Businesses open to the public
A prohibited area includes any location where discharging a firearm is unlawful.
Police Authority to Inspect Firearms
Under Penal Code 25850(b), a law enforcement officer may examine a firearm carried in public to determine whether it is loaded.
Refusing to allow inspection may provide probable cause for arrest under Penal Code 25850.7.
Exemptions to Penal Code 25850
Certain individuals are exempt from prosecution under this statute, including:
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Active or honorably retired peace officers
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Federal agents
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Active-duty military personnel
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Concealed carry permit holders
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Licensed security officers
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Lawful hunters or individuals traveling to or from a firing range (when properly transporting the firearm in a locked container)
Each exemption has specific requirements. Improper transport may eliminate eligibility.
Elements the Prosecutor Must Prove
To obtain a conviction under Penal Code 25850, the prosecutor must prove:
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You carried a loaded firearm on your person or in a vehicle
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You knew you were carrying the firearm
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You were in a public place or a prohibited area
Knowledge is a critical element. If you were unaware the firearm was present or unaware it was loaded, the prosecution may fail to meet its burden.
Penalties for Carrying a Loaded Firearm
Misdemeanor Penalties
In most cases, a conviction carries:
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Up to one year in county jail
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A fine of up to $1,000
When Penal Code 25850 Becomes a Felony
This offense may be charged as a felony if:
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You have a prior felony conviction
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The firearm was stolen and you knew it
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You were actively participating in a criminal street gang
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You were prohibited from owning a firearm
Felony penalties may include:
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16 months, 2 years, or 3 years in county jail
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Fines
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Formal probation
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Firearm ownership restrictions
Additional consequences may include immigration penalties for non-citizens.
Related Firearm Offenses
Carrying a loaded firearm is often charged alongside related offenses, including:
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Penal Code 25400 – Carrying a concealed firearm
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Penal Code 417 – Brandishing a weapon
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Penal Code 245(a)(1) – Assault with a deadly weapon
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Penal Code 26350 – Openly carrying an unloaded firearm
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Penal Code 16590 – Possession of prohibited weapons
Each charge has distinct elements and defenses.
Legal Defenses to Penal Code 25850
Every case is fact-specific. However, common defenses include:
Lack of Knowledge
The prosecutor must prove you knew you were carrying the firearm. If the weapon was found in a backpack, trunk, or shared vehicle, knowledge may be disputed.
The Firearm Was Not Loaded
If there was no round in the chamber and no loaded magazine attached, the firearm may not meet the legal definition of “loaded.”
Unlawful Search and Seizure
Police must have legal grounds to detain and search you. If the firearm was discovered during an unlawful stop or search, a motion to suppress evidence may result in dismissal.
Not a Public Place
If the location does not qualify as a public place under the statute, the charge may not apply.
Exemption Applies
If you qualify under a statutory exemption, you may not be criminally liable.
Pre-Filing Intervention
In some cases, a defense attorney may intervene before formal charges are filed.
Pre-filing advocacy may include:
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Presenting mitigating evidence
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Providing proof of lawful ownership
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Submitting character letters
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Demonstrating lack of criminal intent
Early intervention can sometimes prevent charges from being filed.
Frequently Asked Questions
Can I carry a loaded gun in my car in California?
Generally no, unless you qualify under a valid exemption such as a concealed carry permit.
Does the firearm have to work to violate PC 25850?
No. The weapon does not need to be operable if it was designed to function as a firearm.
Can this charge be reduced?
In some cases, yes. Depending on the facts, felony charges may be reduced to misdemeanors or dismissed.
Will I lose my gun rights?
A conviction may result in restrictions on firearm ownership, especially in felony cases.
Speak With a Los Angeles Firearms Defense Attorney
Weapons charges can have serious and lasting consequences. If you are accused of carrying a loaded firearm in violation of Penal Code 25850, you should consult with an experienced California criminal defense attorney immediately.
An effective defense may involve challenging the search, disputing knowledge, or arguing statutory exemptions. Early legal intervention can significantly impact the outcome of your case.
If you are facing firearm charges in Los Angeles County, seek legal guidance to protect your rights and your future. Eisner Gorin LLP is here to help.
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